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Wolves eSports Partnership with Bundled

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by Kashmire Hawker, Aug 3, 2018.

  1. Fuse

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    I get why people are sceptical about esports, for years games have just been something to pass the time at home, anyone can play, there's no physical exertion involved, etc. These days though people dedicate hours of their lives each day to honing their skills, they spend as much if not more time than people would spend practicing their football skills. Elite pro level gamers really are on a different planet to the average Joe. Anyone that thinks "oh I could do that, give me a controller" think again, some of these top level players would absolutely wipe the floor with you.

    You really do have to admire the dedication and the skill, sure there's not much by the way of physicality but then as others have said neither is darts, snooker, poker, etc. and plenty of people watch that.

    I used to play a first person shooter competititvely in my youth, had a team of about 10 of us and we'd play in leagues with other teams from all across Europe. There was no money in it then to speak of but the buzz of being part of a team, the teamwork needed to succeed, developing the tactics, the friendships, winning, etc. was on a par with any 'real' sport.

    Whether you like it or not, it's growing and growing in popularity and it can only be a good thing for Wolves to become a part of it.
     
  2. Boss Hogg

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    I’m quite good at scrabble. Does that make me a gamer? Confused!
     
  3. StefanWolves

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    Wrong

    You have to be ridiculously good to be a pro and make life changing money


    I don't see what's strange about people watching gamers playing a football game. Afterall everyone on this forum watches other footballers play football...
     
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    I'm not really sure I follow what you've said? By earning money directly as a result of doing something, you're at least a semi-professional. If I were to play football for someone like AFC Fylde, I wouldn't be making life changing money, but I'd still being doing it professionally because I'm not doing it for free.
     
  5. StefanWolves

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    You said anyone can become a pro then referenced Twitch. They are completely different in most cases. One is entertainment the other is eSports
     
  6. andyc225

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    If I were to create a Twitch channel, could I also add a means of collecting donations?
     
  7. JamesWolves

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    It's really not as easy as it sounds
     
  8. andyc225

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    I was looking for a yes or no really. I didn't ask if it was easy.
     
  9. StefanWolves

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    Yes and probably sponsorships too

    Prime example is KSI

    Profesional entertainer who happens to be a gamer

    He is not a pro eSport player
     
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    Does he earn at least some money on a consistent basis as a result of playing video games? If so, he's a semi-professional/professional gamer.
     
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    You said pro gamer when discussing eSports. That is what you were referring to

    It is not easy to become an eSports pro. You are talking nonesense
     
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    I never said it was 'easy'. I said it was possible to be at least a semi-professional by collecting donations or receiving some benefit in kind in the form of a sponsorship for playing a computer game. If you're doing well enough, you could choose to do it full time. If you're making at least part of your living as a direct result of doing something, that makes you a semi-professional. I wasn't necessarily talking about playing on the full time Counter Strike or League of Legends circuit or anything like that.
     
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  14. Very Proud (AKA Still Proud)

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    Wow, I was handy on Minesweeper back in the day, used to do a couple of 32x32 grids on my lunchtime. Time to dust off the Windows 95 PC and get some training in.

    Off to ask my stepson about this.....
     
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    I'm with you on that one
     
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    KSI is a YouTuber who gets paid for how many views he gets on his videos what ever he is doing. He does football videos but you'd not call him a semi pro/pro footballer.
     
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    Interesting move, seems pretty small scale but worth having iron in the fire as the long term trend is moving this way.
     
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    The same with streamers on twitch etc they might be good at games but they might also be good at the presenting side of streaming. Pro gamers might also stream etc but it's the hours they put into training as a team & then performing on the day in front of a crowd.
     
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    I’m into my youtubers so I get how they make money especially this guy

    But wow, football teams are signing esport stars..... how does it enhance wolves?
     
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    In the olden days, early 2000's, I used to go to Birmingham to compete in the PESfan.com tournament, it'll live long in the memory, some absolute nutters there who wanted to knock you out for even scoring a goal against them. One guy was even seen biting into his controller in sheer anger and snapping a tooth. Those were the days. These days people like that can threaten to kill you via a message if you beat them.

    My gaming days are over now, I came out retirement a couple of years ago, a kid little more than a toddler challenged me to a game of Fifa, I thought I'll show this little punk what a proper gamer looks like, give him a life lesson. He thrashed me 6 or 7-0, you know it's time to call it a day then.
     
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    In America last week some guy shot a load of fellow competitors dead after losing a Madden game.

    ****ing mental.
     
  22. Stratman Wolves

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    PSG won the Dota 2 international last week. The PSG team was also a team of all Chinese kids. I can easily see Wolves getting into this.
     
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    To be fair, I’d debate whether cricket counts as a sport, yet people still make a living out of that.
     
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    Yes. A game of mental skill. With competitions held around the world with prize money, sets of official rules, world and national organisations maintaining required regulations and standards, and official paraphernelia such as special clocks (like chess). Included in the "mind games" together with Chess, Backgammon, Bridge etc.
    Don't hear much about it nowadays though.
     
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    I commented on my lad watching a you tube video of a bloke playing an x box game, he pointed out to me that I watch video's of fans watching football! Touche. Btw some of the language on these gamer video's is pretty ripe, and kids are the main target audience.
     
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    I was quite tidy on the ZX Spectrum Football Manager back in the day in the mid 80s. I thought the right thing to do at the time was focus on my studies and go to University etc etc. Hmmmm. Meanwhile one
    Of my mates at the time - who played our Spectrum as he didn’t have one of his own - started writing games when he was 16, didn’t bother going to college but went on to start a now very successful gaming company based in San Francisco.
     
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    I will challenge anyone to a game of Mario Kart on the SNES.
     
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    So we've gone from people playing computer games because they can't be arsed or are not good enough to play the real games, to people now watching other people play the games. What a weird world we live in. Dinosaur I maybe but I'm glad it wasn't like this when I was younger.
     
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    I sort of get it. But then again I don't.

    I get why Wolves (or any football club for that matter) would want to engage young people and/or people outside the UK, and spread the 'brand' beyond the football 'product' (urgh!)

    I don't understand why 'esports' is a main or only vehicle for this. Slightly tongue-in-cheek but given our Chinese ownership and the stated intention of Fosun to grow the Wolves' support there, surely it would be a great move to sponsor Ding Jun-Hui, as snooker is such a massive and growing sport there. Sponsor Van Gerwen in darts to reach the Dutch market, and I dunno, Sloan Stephens in tennis to hit female and US demographic (remember more schoolgirls play 'soccer' than do schoolboys in US) I just don't know where you'd draw the line with this, but if the object is to sell thousands of shirt surely there is no end to the potential for this type of affiliation?

    Maybe its because I am old fart but i found the 'unveiling' of 'The Turin' cringemaking, especially as he is wearing the squad number of an actual Wolverhampton Wanderers footballer. Finally, its a bit of a philosophical point but as soon as you latch on other things to Wolves, it sort of dilutes the fan base. The thing that unifies us is the Wolves. Any other sport or affiliation that carries some sort of Wolves link will be of great interest to some but many won't give a toss or even be 'anti'. You only have to engage with fellow Wolves fans on anything from choice of pre-match drink, politics or interest in other sports to see how disparate the 'one pack' really is, away from Molineux.
     
  30. StefanWolves

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    But we aren't going to have a Darts team, a tennis team, a snooker team etc.
     
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    or an esports 'team' are we? or does that comment show my complete ignorance of the genre?
     
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    N64 Mario Kart was my game. :cool:;)
     
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    It's all a bit weird and as an 'oldie' I don't really get it... but I like this bit he knows how to talk the talk!

    Torin said: “Watching Wolves play against Manchester City was a real pleasure and the style play matches mine in many ways.
    “I think with Wolves I can be successful over the coming years and I believe by playing for the best club in the West Midlands my own game can develop further as well.
     
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    OK I see that Video gaming is of great interest to millions of people but to try and dress it up as a sport with athletes participating still seems unconvincing to me.
    Still some very clever people will undoubtably make a load of money out of this. :rolleyes:
     
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    I really can't think of anything more boring and tedious. In fact l would rather attend a match at the Peepoorthorns, it's that bad...
     
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    Not sure if you've heard of Fortnite but that's a very popular game to watch (millions etc), anything but boring in my opinion!

    I guess the entry of the club into e-sports could be viewed as a way of enhancing our "soft power" by raising awareness of the club and its brand abroad. I don't see any real negatives or cons to it.
     

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