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João Felix

Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by Skyscraper, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. WickedWolfie

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    Even the Vile, crooked though they are, can't sell someone else's (dirty *******) player who is on loan to them...
     
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    It is hard to believe we would get anywhere near Felix but I do think the club will be looking for one special player next summer who can help take us to the next level. Talisca will get bored in China at some point soon hopefully....?
     
  3. DanWWFC1988

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    The news keep circulating this story about wolves supposedly being In pole position for him.
    Exciting times potentially ahead....however £120 million is quite a lot and we also have to remember that we are buying dendoncker for £12 million and Raul for £36 million!!!
    Are we looking to off load to compensate?
    Dare I say it....Costa? £10 million? Maybe £20 million at a push!

    All I will say to end this is....we've still got 5-6 months! Yawn :tearsofjoy:
     
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    It's not happening at the price tag being discussed. There's no way in a million years Fosun will spend that sort of money on a fairly unknown quantity at this level. We're talking about a British record fee.
     
  5. Hull Wolf

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    Well Benfica are our feeder club aren't they so never say never :p
     
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    Just need Jorge to organise another tour of the training facilities :cool::p
     
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  7. MasWolf

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    On current form, if you bought Costa for £10 million you'd get £9,999,999 back in change.
     
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  8. goldeneyed

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    Noone is going to pay £120 million. But perhaps if he keeps delivering he will go for around £75m. No way would we be spending that kind of money in the summer. Especially if we are going to meet the 38 m euros supposedly needed to get Raul in (surely we will negotiate this down?) On top of that we are committed to spending £12m for Dendoncker and of course have just laid out £15m on Jonny.

    We will be looking at loans and end of contract deals no doubt but beyond the above expenditure perhaps there will be one more big signing in the £25m to £35m range (for a striker). If Fulham go down then Mitrovic seems an obvious target in that price range. Anything beyond that and surely the financial strain will be too much and FFP and so on kicks in. I am also assuming there will be a couple of sales of our current squad as part of the upgrading process. Costa is obviously most vulnerable and I suppose we might get £10m for him if he can make a half decent impression in the remaining 12 league plus cup games. Otherwise the squad is so thin that it is hard to see how many more we could afford to sell. Cav has attracted interest in the past and if he went presumably we might get around £13m-15m for him. Saiss is another possibility but we would only get about £4m for him I assume and he is a valuable squad member covering two positions. Bennett may be vulnerable but again we would want to keep him as part of the squad. So now that we have cleaned out the squad of most of the inadequate players there is not much scope for sales and we will surely have to bring a minimum of three or four new players to strengthen the squad and hope that Giles, Ennis, Watt, Goncalves, Killman, John, Ashley-Seal and co can take another step up as MGW has. Mir may also return. Apart from Raul and another striker Nuno will surely want another RWB to compete with Doherty and another quality CB. An attacking midfielder would also be very useful. Felix on loan?
     
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  9. RosehillWolf

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    I'd love to know why people keep banging on about Mitrovic, he's half the striker that Raul is . Mitrovic is a journeyman bang average player that blows hot and cold and produces nowhere near the workrate that Nuno would want
     
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    Because if you watch him, he's a really good player. Only 24 still so a bit harsh calling him a journeyman, he's had to play his way up. players of his style don't normally peak till late 20's.
     
  11. goldeneyed

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    Mitrovic is very effective and has always given us plenty of problems. If he is so poor than why have we been so unable to handle him and why has he scored so many goals plus providing plenty of assists more generally? There may be question marks over his temperament but he is still relatively young yet very experienced and would not cost a fortune. At the end of the day its a matter of who else is there within a reasonable price range that could enhance the squad/team? Strikers that are any good are £25m minimum and more likely £40m plus these days.
     
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    I just don't see him as an improvement on what we already have, and to progress, we need better players
     
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    The art of understatement !!
     
  14. goldeneyed

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    Trouble is better players than Raul will cost a fortune! Haller at Eintracht Frankfurt would be my preference right now based on current form but Mitrovic would imv be a very useful addition and at 24 could benefit from Nuno's coaching.
     
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    Just using our club name to jack up the fee for another club foolish enough to buy at that price
     
  16. Stafford

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    To improve we need a second 11 as good as our first.
     
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    I like Mitrovic, but honestly think we will be aiming higher.
    Listening to what Carragher said the other day about breaking into the top 6, he's completely right.
    Chelsea, in 6th, are having a terrible season with the squad they've got. And we could end up having the best season of any our lifetimes. Chelsea are still 11 points ahead of us. It's a very big gap to close.

    A top 6 team rarely drop points outside of the matches against each other, and they expect to need to win most of those other matches to get their money-spinning place in the Champions League, instead of the Europa. It is a different competition to the one we're playing in right now.
    If Wolves are to match their stated ambition of breaking into that top 6, they will need to spend hundreds of millions of pounds to go up a few positions, and i think they will start making big statements in the summer. Nothing we've done so far should lead to any doubts, it's been perfect planning for 24 months.
    That means aiming higher than Mitrovic, and being a bit ruthless with some of the players we already have.
     
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    I can't see him costing anywhere near 120m. He's only started 8 games for Benfica and although he's scored 7 already, this is the Portuguese league we're talking about. However purely for his potential and age, at a fee of 40-50m with a big sell-on percentage, I think it's something we'd seriously consider. We have a good relationship with Benfica and Mendes is presumably his agent, also Vinagre and Jota know him well from playing together in Portugal's underage teams. He knows if he goes to a European powerhouse like Bayern or Madrid he's going to struggle for game time when he needs to be playing, whereas we could guarantee him it in the best league in the world.
     
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    But FFP means the process is going to be a slow one, next step for me is matching that starting 11 so we have depth.

    Lets remember how dissapointed we were over the summer signing a Jiminez rather than a Silva. We just aren't going to be buying already made top 4 players, you need to be spending 150,000-300,000 on wages for a start.
     
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    Yes, better players than what we already have will cost more, I would have thought everyone would know that, including the Manager, and FOSUN.... it's not a cheap option to break into that top 6
     
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    Mitrovic doesn't have the required quality. We don't **** balls up to forwards to attack the back stick. Not a bad player, but not good enough for our ambitions.
     
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    Exactly how is see it, well said.
     
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    **** me Dan, we've already bought Dendoncker. It's been reported 1,398,542 times ;)
     
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    Probably way off the mark but my mind has wandered to a possible stand off with us wanting to get Jimenez for less (or not at all) and also get Felix, then Benfica turn around and say we can have them both for £80m. I sense a shady deal in the offing... where's Mendes?!
     
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    I like that theory
     
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    Mendez : Ok baby I (Volverhampton) give you 85m euros for Felix and Jiminez plus 20% sell on clause and a two week free holiday on my Caribbean yacht every year forever plus a 10 year Molineux season ticket and all the beer you can drink and all the cheese and onion crisps and prawn sandwiches you can eat. Deal?
    Benefica President: Don'ta bull**** me Jorge. Its 120m euros straight for Felix and 38m for Raul.
    Mendez: You hurtin me baby. Ok let's be fair, 95m euros for de two. C'mon you know on my mother's life that is a good deal.
    Benefica President: Your mudder is dead.
    Mendez: Ok, on my little childrens' life.
    Benefica President: Your children are both over 30.
    Mendez: Ok ok 96m euros for the two. Shake on it my friend.
    Benefica President: 96m euros for Felix and 30m euros for Raul.
    Mendez: 80m euros for Felix, 25m for Raul.....
    Benefica President: 85m euros for Feliix, 30m for Raul
    Mendez: 80m euros for Felix, 28m euros for Raul, final offer.
    Benefica: Ok ok but that includes the yacht holiday, the beer forever, the prawn sandwiches and cheese and onion crisps. The Wolves season ticket and a first option to buy Neves in 2021 for 80m euros and Jota for 35m euros.
    Mendez: 95m euros for Neves option. 48m for Jota.
    Benefica President: Ok, ok Jorge, deal. Let's open the Chateau Margaux 35.....
     
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    Obviously you were there - but when was this??:)
     
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    Did he really say that? **** giving him a 10 year season ticket,there's a waiting list ya know
     
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    Can't have been. That's quarter past eight and Goldeneyed posted almost an hour earlier!


    :)
     
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    And we dow do prawn sarnies.It's chaiz an onion cobs or nothing.
     
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    How much have Everton, West Ham even Man Utd spent? It’s not always about the money, does the player fit into our style & ethos. The team spirit & attitude it worth more than sheet talent.

    Hopefully we’ll get the right 3/4 players in the summer.
     
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    Not to mention that Rafa offloaded him (on ability and attitude grounds) from Newcastle.
     
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    We could always sell costa to stoke for £30million, then get him on a season long loan. ;)
     
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    Once more now.
     
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    I bet after watching this @JadeWolf and @Netherton Wolf think that this guy has got just what we need in a player.
     
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    The lad looks quality and could play anywhere in a front three and as a two as well. I think Jota and Jimenez would love playing alongside him.
     
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    Hate to be the one who says this but I cannot see us forking out that kind of money unless we sell Neves :eek:, and I don’t believe we intend to sell him currently.
    I would love to see both of them in the team though.
     

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