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God’s footballer

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  1. berwickwolf

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    Posted this on Wolves Supporters Alliance on Facebook earlier in response to a post and thought maybe people might be interested if they haven’t seen it before. Enjoy!
     
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    Seeing this did bring a tear to my eye. Thinking back to my Kenny Hibbitt thread I said that Jimmy McC, Hibbitt, Richards, Dougan and Waggy was my favourite Wolves forward line but looking at the Ronnie Allen team photo on the vid seeing Wharton, Hunt Dougan , Knowles and Wagstaffe together has made me think? Wow, just Wow!!!!! And we think we are lucky now?
     
  3. Rhoswolf

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    My favourite player ever, simply the best!!
     
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    Me and my old man went and saw Billy Bragg at the civic several years ago. We got absolutely **** faced. He performed this, it was good.

    Bit too much of a lefty though, if that’s even a thing.
     
  5. reanswolf

    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    Great player ........apparently :)-

    Sadly never saw him.
     
  6. Rhoswolf

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    He truly was, my God in the same way Bully was for later generations.
     
  7. Frank Lincoln

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    Knocker was the best player I ever saw in our colours, he had everything.
     
  8. reanswolf

    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    What sort of player was he, or who in modern times is he most like?

    I have never seen much footage of him playing, but for some reason I imagine him being like Glenn Hoddle with a bit of pace.
     
  9. Rhoswolf

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    He was a player who had everything along with personality and a hint of devilment, a perfect icon for the 60's, I'll bore you stiff next time we meet!
     
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    I think Hoddle is a good comparison. Knowles had a superb range of passing and he also had goals in him, usually from outside the area. But at the time he had a bit of a playboy image like George Best. So the Jehova Witness thing came as a bit of a shock to everybody. Nobody saw that coming.
     
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    Peter Knowles was indeed a very gifted player, but (at the risk of being burned as a heretic) I just don't see that the level of adulation that he regularly receives on this forum as being quite justified. I say this with some reservation as I only saw him play a couple of dozen times, during his early years in the early sixties before going abroad, and no doubt he progressed over the next few years. In my opinion, which may not be worth a lot, he was not as good as Peter Broadbent. They only overlapped by two or three seasons.

    This may be a generation thing of course, and memories can be unreliable. How can you accurately compare players of different decades?
     
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  12. reanswolf

    reanswolf MolMix's Manchester United Cheerleader-in-Chief

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    Look forward to it- I’ll wait outside Magees with my tins whilst you’re in the queue :)-
     
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    Heretic indeed!!:D

    Started attending in the late 50's and Peter Broadbent was my dad's favourite and mine too, then as a rebellious teenager in the early 60's Peter Knowles was my idol, guess I saw well over 90% of his games home an away and can say with total certainty you're wrong!!
     
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    I only saw Broadbent at the end of his career, but I know he was highly regarded. He was one of the best players around at that time, or so I am told. He may have better than Knocker, but if he was he must have been a very special player indeed.
     
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    Come on now...don't sit on the fence. :p ;) You obviously saw more of PK than I did, but maybe I saw more of PB? I'd guess that I started a few years before you, but left UK in 1964 so missed a chunk of PK's career. But - based on what I did see - PB was the pick. All opinions eh?
     
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    He was indeed a special player, better than Knocker that's for others to debate as I'm biased.;)
     
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    When I saw the title 'Gods Footballer', I thought this was going to be a post about Eggert Jonsson.
     
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    Did BB ever say why he wrote the song about PK?
     
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    You are right...VERY special.
     
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    I think he just read something about Knocker's story and then did a bit of research.
     
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    I'm another heretic, but I saw his career from first to last, from his debut in 1963 to his last game v Forest in September 1969. Must have seen him play well over 100 times. Yes, a very talented footballer, a showman, a goal scorer, a 'schemer', a play-boy and probably a lot more. But for my money not a player of the highest level. Certainly not a George Best who was the SUPREME footballer, never seen anything like him, and on a par with Pele, Messi, you name it. It's significant that in the early 70s, when we finished 4th, 9th and 5th in the top tier from 1970 to 1973, only a few years after Knocker retired, I don't recall anybody going on about what a great loss he was. We had a wonderful team then, with Doog, King John, Kenny, Frank, Jimmy Mac, Derek, Waggy, nobody was harking back to Knocker!

    As for Peter Broadbent, about three classes above any of the above. A true great, best player I ever saw in a Wolves shirt in 64 years of watching.
     
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    If they'd been playing today, some on here would be saying that Nuno should be dropping them.
     
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    You opinion and one I strongly disagree with and can tell you there were many fans I know who would too.
     
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    Talking about God's footballer... here's one I composed a few years back after we beat Man U


    Memories are made of this... (v Man U 2011)

    'Twas evening and under the floodlights,
    That atmosphere all of us love;
    With memories of Spartak and Honved,
    And Dougan who's now up above.

    The noise at the start rattled roof tops,
    The South bank and North were in tune;
    But Nani waltzed past Elokobi:
    "1-0" groaned the doubters... too soon?

    No more than a few minutes later,
    Big George drifted into the box;
    The cross from Matt Jarvis, perfection!
    The roar from the crowd stopped the clocks!

    The Wanderers piled on the pressure,
    And Zubar robbed Rooney for fun;
    The fat granny-sh@gger pursued him;
    He went down as if shot by a gun.

    The Serb whipped it in, fast and wicked,
    Big George and KD queueing up;
    Who got the last touch, George or Doyler?
    Who cares! Felt like we'd won the Cup!

    Manure tried their hardest to beat us,
    And got up to many a trick;
    Behind the ref's back Giggs kicked Kevin,
    And Scholes tried his 'hand of God' flick.

    But Wanderers showed what they're made of:
    Team spirit and never-say-die;
    You could hear Billy Wright and Stan Cullis
    Cheering them on from the sky!
     
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    Yep, it's all about opinions. He only played for us for 6 years...
     
  26. Edgmond Wolf

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    I ay old enough to remember him :)
     
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    I've often wondered how the likes of Broadbent would compare in todays game. The ball is so much lighter and more responsive, waterproof, boots are totally different, pitches are well drained (and actually have grass in winter), physical conditioning much better, tactics and formations vastly different, etc. I reckon that they'd do themselves proud.
     
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    Only 6 years but gave me some of my best memories ever, his goal at Preston away, ****ing on Portsmouth away, Oldham at home in the cup, out of interest how many years did Jimmy Mac, who you, quote play for us?:confused:
     
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    Your attitude towards Knowles seems very bitter for some.reason. You can't deny he was a player of great quality? He was 24 when he 'retired'. I saw Broadbent play for Shrewsbury when he was clearly past his best though still had some good touches. A number of older Wolves fans have said to me he was the best they ever saw. As regards Best - no Knocker wasn't as good as him but who was? :D So for me he's right up there as the best player I ever saw for Wolves, though that may change soon.
     
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    Great players would be great players in any era. I wonder how today's players would have got on playing on pitches such as the Baseball Ground at Derby. The pitch was a sea of mud, but Derby County played do well on it, they were a joy to watch.
     
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    Broadbent had balance/poise/passing ability.He would have been brilliant in these times.
    All about opinions but despite the phenomenal players over the years for me the greatest ever will always be George Best.
     
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    Loved PK, and I use the word advisedly, because he had more charisma than is legal for one human being.
    Loved and revered PB because he had silky skills that made the game look so simple. He was a joy to watch.
     
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    Wow Frank. We both used "joy to watch", great minds and all that. Genuinely hadn't read your contribution before posting.
     
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    He was clearly a Burnside fan.;)
     
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    Agreed. George Best was the greatest player I ever saw. A footballing genius. Imagine Georgie on today's pitches with today's rules on tackling. He would be unstoppable,
     
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    Not read the thread, may have been covered already.

    Will probably stray into off topic territory but it's just another thing that religion has robbed the planet of.

    Absolutely ludicrous concept, but I admire the guys conviction if not the motives.
     
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    I was , like a number of others of a certain age on here, fortunate to have seen PK play on a number of occasions and he simply oosed class.

    Off the field he had the charisma of a
    Super Star.
    So all in all he was the 'real deal', the 'full package'.

    What a sad day it was, for both the club and supporters, when he announced that he was quitting.
    However you can't but help admire his commitment to his beliefs, from which he never wavered .
     
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    I love that description of him Rhos. I remember one game he was running with the ball in mf, continued running but left the ball behind and all the players went with him before they realised he hadn't the ball! Don't remember what happened next tbh or why he did it but as Rhos says it was most probably pure devilment or trying to have fun at the opposition's expense? What a player!
     
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    Not bitter at all, just telling it like I saw it. A very good player for sure, but I saw plenty of others as good or better.
     
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    I do recall people going on about what a great loss he was, and I was one of them. He was a very good player.
    But I agree that Broadbent was, by some distance, the best Wolves player in my lifetime.
     
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