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Did Leeds take the North Bank in 1972

Discussion in '1970's' started by oldschool, Oct 27, 2014.

  1. oldschool

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    A bit before my time, but Leeds are saying they took the North bank in 1972

    I always take these boasts lightly as any team can take anywhere if they get in early enough.

    They say that Arsenal took the shed in the 70's and Arsenal were rubbish in those days. Didn't Spurs take their North bank every match so that amazes me.

    Anyway, anyone kno what Leeds are talking about, link here http://www.network54.com/Forum/283664/thread/1330243271/Taking+ends
     
  2. Golden Arrow

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    Nobody to my knowledge ever "took the North Bank" and I didn't miss many home games around the early 70's.

    Man Utd tried I remember (they left the South Bank early), but they were chased right out again, and then all hell broke out outside the stand and in the streets close by.

    If you're referring to the game in 1972 when there was 50K + inside the ground (Leeds needed a result to win the Championship), the answer is catagorically "no" as I was there for the whole duration (and after) to celebrate a wonderful 2-1 victory under the Molineux lights.
     
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    I see they don't mention the 1976 fac qtr final or even maine road 1973!

    I can concur with Golden Arrow, that Leeds had virtually none in the North Bank on that famous night, they had no need as they probably had 20,000 in the South Bank. I stood , far right (looking at pitch) Waterloo road side and although there were a couple of Leeds fans hanging on to the outside of the metal fencing otherwise I saw no problems. They never ever came close in any other game, quite the opposite.
     
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    Never i was also at that game and in the north bank,they are just full of $$$$.always have been and always will be.
     
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    Leeds got in early once in the late 60s but got chased out 20 to 30 minutes before kick-off, Manure did get in and stay once in a cup tie.
     
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    Dudley/Golden Arrow, I was stood with my dad and sister on the left hand side of the North Bank (looking at the pitch) lower down than usual, as it was full a bit higher up when we got in, well over an hour before kick-off. I can only confirm what you both say, that Leeds had virtually no fans in the North Bank, I didn`t see any, and perhaps 20,000 of them were in the South Bank. When the Leeds players came out, there were a fair few in the Waterloo Road enclosure, well seen because they had the habit of waving their scarves above their heads. So it is a myth, or a lie even, that Leeds took the North Bank that night. I think they mean they took the Wolves South Bank with their huge following.

    Man Utd had a real go in August, 1969, as hundreds of them got in very early. As we queued outside, it was mostly red and white, and they were singing `Ian, Ian, Ian Ure` as he was making his debut for them. But as more and more Wolves fans came in, a battle started, and Utd got pushed out of the North Bank central area. I had a good view, as I was sat on the NB pen fence, looking up and across the top watching it unfold. I was only 12 at the time, enjoying being in a 50,000 crowd.

    I can only recall the North Bank being taken just the once by Chelsea, and that was by default. The night hundreds (perhaps it was not that many) of them came in at the side and top on the Molineux Street side in 77/78 with about five minutes of the game remaining. Kids, families, OAP`s and North Bank die hards ran for their lives by jumping on to the pitch to escape, bringing the game to a halt. Probably caused more out of fear and panic than anything else, having heard them chant `Chelsea, Chelsea`and I ended up in the Molineux Street stand. The hard core of Wolves support had of course moved to the South Bank at the beginning of that season.
     
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    Leeds did get chased out one home game, late 60s/early 70s, to the tune of `Run, run, run, Elland Road`.
     
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    Wolves ran all the Leeds out of the South Bank to the station Boxing Day 1977.
     
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    Late sixties chelsea ran across the pitch from south bank into the north bank kicking & punching anybody in there way i was about 15 at the time, very scary fans.
     
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    i was also at the 77/78 game where chelsea went in the north bank near the end of the game,but i was in the south bank then.chelsea did stay in the north bank once,but never took the centre of the bank as they were in the right hand section looking at the pitch,spurs also got in there in the early 70s with sammy scar leading them,liverpool tried running in from the south bank in about 72 but got ran straight back out,chelsea had those cloth caps on their heads with razor blades in the seams,who the $$$$ can defend themselves from that sort of thing,any one remember big bill who used to lead wolves.?
     
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  11. It was actually the first home game of the 1978/9 season when chelseas hard core hooligans came into the North Bank about 10 minutes before the end of the game. I was in there that evening and one of the reasons why I still hate Chelsea more than any other club. They switched ends when the gates were opened for fans wanting to leave early. For a while after that the doors to the away end were kept locked until the final whistle.

    I stood in the North Bank for most home games 1976-84. By then most Wolves lads stood in the South Bank, but there were North Bank incursions during that time from Chelsea, manure twice, West Ham and Arsenal though on all those occasions they stuck in a small corner, transferred to the South Bank or for manure in 1982 were aggressively thrown out by the police.
     
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    I can recall Leeds being sent packing in the early seventies as they snuck in early ahead of most ardent of our fighting crew. Spurs got the same treatment but they took a while to shift as they had razor blades hidden behind scarves they had on their wrists, but once w had enough troops it just took a chant of Wanderers Wanderers and we charged them right out of the side under the scoreboard corner old Molineux St and North Bank. Others tried and failed such as West Ham Chelsea and Man ure but only Man Ure managed to stay for any length of time

    "THOSE WERE THE DAYS MY FRIEND"

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    I was on the North Bank for the 72 game, directly behind the goal at cross-bar level. There definitely were some Leeds fans in the N Bank, a few mainly old men with Leeds scarves, certainly not hooligans. They were quite philosophical about losing at the end, I talked to a couple of them at the end when we were leaving the ground.
     
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    Its probably one of them that said they took the North bonk then.never in a month of sundays.
     
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    yow tell em oldschool.
     
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    Chelsea did:mad:
     
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    Yes but only in 1977-78 season, after the 'hard' lads had moved to the South bank full time in 1976. They did not take the South bank that day but opted for a soft touch full of old men in the North Bank.
     
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    Steady on I was in there at the tender age of 24:p Not everyone had left for the South Bank in that era. I always preferred the North Bank.

    I was at the Leeds game but had to settle for the South Bank as by the time I arrived the North Bank was full and closed. There were, understandably, a fair few from Leeds in there but I witnessed no 'taking' or fighting at all. Just subdued Yorkshire boys and girls after their corrupt outfit had been magnificently put in their place.

    As to the other game when Chelsea supposedly 'took' the North Bank I was in there to witness first hand what happened.

    Much of it, as with all the 'folklore' of those times, was exaggerated and blown up out of proportion.

    I was in my(our) usual spot to the right of the goal looking towards the pitch almost at the back of the NB. The gates had been open about five minutes as usual at the end of the game. There was no noise made at all by the Chelsea fans such as chanting on the way in. So the first anyone knew about it was a rumbling of the wooden boards at the top of the NB and much pushing and shoving which caused the crowd to 'sway' and it was mainly confusion as anyone who attended on the old terraces would recognise. Once the 'swaying' started then you could end up anywhere, split up from those you are with. I ended up nearly at the front of the North Bank.

    Then the Chelsea fans, about fifty tops is the way I remember it, started their yob chants and kicking out at the confused Wolves fans. This lasted no more than a few minutes. As I was now at the front I made my was via the Waterloo Road steps back up on to the concourse underneath the North Bank. I was looking for my younger brother mainly, as well as the others who had been separated. My brother was only just seventeen then and although from what I had seen I was not concerned about these Chelsea 'hard cases':rolleyes: I would rather have been with him.

    As I went up the steps back on to the North Bank there was a huge empty space so I turned back to go down on to the concourse, to be met by a gobby Chelsea fan who decided he was going to smack me one and nick my scarf. As I was at the top of the steps and he was coming up I had the advantage of 'height'. I placed a very nice straight right jab on to his nose and he fell back down the steps onto the concourse where he was met by three mates who picked him up, looked up the steps at me (joined now by one of my mates and my brother) and then they legged it down the steps and onto Waterloo Road at double quick time .No doubt his bloody, swollen nose would have been used as a medal to brag about when back in his posy Chelsea home. Ludicrous.

    Most of that night looked worse than it was due to the confusion. Much of it from back then was much the same. In all the years I went home and away the serious incidents were very few and far between. Most of it was irritating posturing.

    Serious ones I can remember? The stabbing on the North Bank late sixties (Spurs) Leeds at Molineux on Boxing Day as mentioned. Man Utd at home. Forest away as mentioned elsewhere. I can't really think of any other 'serious' incidents at games themselves TBH although I remember the George days well from another thread.

    I have never attended any Wolves game looking for trouble. That it found me now and again was a thing you accepted. Sometimes there is no choice but the defend yourself and I always did without any harm coming to me thankfully.
     
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  20. ElsecarBlade

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    Just surfed in guys, read this thread and thought I'd have to add my twopenneth. During the 1970's I used to go all over watching matches but living in Yorkshire it was easier to go local. In those days it was possible to make a decision to go to a game quite close to kick off time as you could pay at the turnstyle no questions asked. On that basis I decided to go to Huddersfield to watch the Leeds v Wolves match as Leeds had to play their first 5 home games away from Bellend Road.

    Have to say there was trouble all around me that day on the big side terrace that Leeds Road had, it was one battle after another and can't remember it settling down, it was quite frightening actually.

    On another occasion I went to Leeds to watch the match against Wolves at the time when matches had to kick off in the afternoon as Heaths govt was under the cosh from the miners and businesses couldn't have their lights on after 4pm I believe. Stood at the Wolves end 'cos I hated Leeds and there was trouble again a, my Yorkshire accent saving me when I got the usual "Got the time mate" from Leess thugs, I must have looked depressed 'cos Leeds had won.

    Any of you at either of those games ?

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    That must have been some 45 years ago Elsecar, I did'nt go to leeds with Wolves until late 70's.

    To be honest I don't recall Wolves taking many to Leeds in those days, maybe a thousand. I stand to be corrected. A pretty daunting place was Leeds and outside the midlands I'm not sure we travelled that well in those days despite being a tough place to come to at Molineux.
     
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    Dont agree with you there reans.i went everywhere with wolves in the 70s,ok we were not on the same planet as say manure,liverpool,leeds.but we took about the same amount as most in those days,london we dident take too many though.
     
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    Thats fair enough bud, I was just a whippasnappa in the 70's, my first time to Leeds was with the old Subway around 1982, famous Peacock incident. But we only took about 1000 then, same next year or so. I guess our support was low then.

    I also remember going to Sheff Utd away as a kid our 1976 relegation season when we won 4-1, again only about a thousand Wolves there.
     
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    A thousand was pretty good in the 70s though.like i say,we dident take loads to london,i remember a night game at west ham about 73ish,we took 3 coaches,west ham came into the end we were in looking for some aggro,a few came over to me as i was behind the goal leaning on the barrier with a silk scarf on both wrists,(dow say anything)and as we were spread out it looked as though there were not any wolves there at all,is this all you have bought down said one skinhead to me,i told him 3 coaches,they just tutted and walked away,i thought i was going to get me head kicked in,so fair play to them,if it had been scouse i would have been dead.
     
  25. Roby Wolf.

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    I was at both games ,dont recall any trouble though there again i never went looking for it.

    Was in the open end at Leeds Rd 0-0er Wolves played well that day and was a lovly summers day if i recall .

    Game at Elland Rd was a Cup replay kicking of at a rediculas 1-30pm was behind the goal opposite end to were Mick Jones scored late on .

    Had to get the Ribble Bus from Liverpool because of the Rail strike left Liverpool at 7am and only just got there before kick-off begging the driver to pull up on the hard shoulder of the MW so we could dash to the ground and make kick-off.

    No shame in loosing to Leeds back in the day thay were a vg team and so to were The Wolves.
     
  26. ElsecarBlade

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    Thanks for replying chaps. There was loads of trouble at the Huddersfield match. In the huge covered side terrace Wolves and Leeds hooligans were charging at each other and there was also trouble on the open end behind the goal, how could you miss that ? It was 0-0 and it was a nice day early in the season.

    It would have been early 70s not quite 45 years ago, more like 40. We've all slept since then.

    Ps Well done yesterday :D
     
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    That night no Leeds were in the North Bank. There were lots in the South Bank which was so full it sadly could have been a disaster. Lots of Wolves in the South as well.
     
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    3 years to reply ? bet your conversations just fly by !:D
     
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    That was what I said 3 years ago, and I say it again. There WERE some Leeds fans in the N Bank that night, but only a few hundred old blokes tops. Definitely no hooligans -- they were all in the south bank
     
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    As mentioned previously, I was in the North Bank that night, left side two thirds down, lower than usual.

    I can`t recall seeing many Leeds fans across the NB myself.

    There may have been some dotted around, as you say BSK but not enough to jog my memory.

    Thing was we were penned into our own area, it was very full, around us were none. I don`t recall Leeds singing in the North Bank.

    As I mentioned before. When Leeds came out, their fans had a habit of waving their scarves above their heads with both hands.

    I was surprised at the number in the Waterloo Road Enclosure which made an impression on me, likewise in the South Bank.
     
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    Late 60's/Early 70's Arsenal were no.1 in London by some way, Chelsea were rubbish, noisy but were routinely taken by virtually everyone. FA Cup tie vs Albion 1969 there were a couple of thousand Albion in middle of Shed for entire game. Seek and you will find: https://greatwen.com/tag/hooligans/
     

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