Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by glorybox, Jan 29, 2019.
Named FAI young player of the year.
Do you think someone should tell them?
Don’t want to get involved
Is he really all that? Our central midfield players looked far better when we played West Ham recently.
Said it before, everyone around him had a shocker.
Do believe he’s all that and reckon he might well be the natural replacement for Fernandino at City.
Really? I just dont see it but we will see.
I'm not 100% sure of him yet, we do need some good defensive midfielders to come through with all our attacking talent.
Just another Eric Dier for me
Happy to be proven wrong but having seen my fair share of wet spam this season, he’s been their player of the year by far, he is young and can be inconsistent, but I’d certainly like to have him here.
Harsh to judge on one game, I’d imagine Huddersfield fans think the same about our players.
From what Iv seen Rice looks a really good young player.
Niall ennis. Looking forward to seeing more of this lad
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Rice only turned 20 two months ago, for him to be playing at the levels he is is pretty special. He's only going to get better.
I thought he looked like a nothing player when I saw him against West Ham. He looked totally out of his depth, albeit in a very poor side.
Got schooled by Moutinho that night.
West Ham fans seem to make a habit of 'bigging up' their young players who more often than not turn out to be abysmal nobodies.
Jack Rodwell, Mark Noble, Michael Johnson, John Bostock, mk2
Well yes, he could plateau and not step up any levels.
He is exceptionally good for his age though.
For me, he’s one of the most promising (none Wolves) youngsters in the Premier League, along with Wan Bisakka, Chilwell, Brooks and Maddison.
Tbf he is only going to improve, would love him at wolves, with the right coaching his potential is unlimited.
In the england squad confirmed
Apparently he was still an ROI player when the votes were cast and so they are keeping the integrity of the process.
Wouldn't be surprised if there is also an element of football politics in all of this, a bit of a dig at that situation.
If England also poached their wicketkeeper, would that be an Irish backstop issue?
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Mark noble 6-7 years ago
The best ones they produced they hate in lampard and ince!! West Ham fans know **** all
I think Longstaff looks better
We didn't poach him though. If anything, Ireland tried to poach him from us when he was a youngster. It's their own fault, same as with Grealish. Pick players born and raised in England and this is going to keep happening. Unless they do a Wales and cheat and blood them in official matches when they're too young to know any better.
Fair enough about Rice, and I used the word 'poach' loosely. However, most (but not all) of those English born Welsh players are involved in the Welsh set up at an early age, coming through the youth teams, and so they've had time to then decide at full international level.
What kind of player is rice? I have no idea
Is he a defensive mid
Box to box
Deep lying play maker?
Which player would you liken him too
They also produced Carrick, Joe Cole and Rio Ferdinand; who all seemed to do ok.
Carrick was 16 when he joined them so whether they produced him is open to debate, Joe Cole I’d argue never got anywhere near the hype, a legend in his own lifetime. Ferdinand was class, again they aren’t too struck on him are they?
I think Fabian Delph looks better
The Eric Dier comparison is a fair one, Whenever I have seen Rice play I haven't been overly impressed by him nor has he stood out. If it wasn't for the fact he is at West Ham I doubt there would be much of a call for him receiving a England call up.
He was awful against us, but so were the entire West Ham team. He has been quality for West Ham and plays the game like someone much older than he is. He breaks up play and drives forward brilliantly.
Can you please leave the opinions on Declan Rice to people who’ve seen him play once?
Would you say his best game was against Arsenal? only seen him 4-5 times.
You only need to train with a club for three years between your 15th and 21st birthdays to be classed as home-grown by a club, so it isn't really open for debate on Carrick. Joe Cole won three Premier League titles and won all the major cups in the English game, got over 50 England caps, runners up in the Champions League so didn't do too badly - certainly did better than anything we have produced in the same time frame. Yet we bang on about Robbie Keane and Jo Lescott when talking about our academy.
People on this thread keep writing Declan Rice off over one game against us; imagine another club doing the same with MGW based one of his inconsistent performances. People on here would be in meltdown over it.
No ones writing Declan Rice off, he's just not the shining light of English youth development that you'd believe listening to things like Talksport.
It's great that he's been getting an opportunity and is playing so consistantly well and defensive mid is never going to be the most glamerous of positions, however anyone who's been watching the English youth setup the last few years knows there is phenomally better talent coming through. He's getting more mentions by the media than the likes of Sancho, who is having an incredible season. If he didn't play for a London team he would be nowhere near the limelight as he is.
Again joe Cole was going to be a world super star? Didn’t get there did he let’s be honest, I’ll bet Gareth Barry is similar in all statistics. I can’t see where I alluded to them compared to our academy?
Funnily I watch a lot of premier league games not just ours, I’m totally underwhelmed by him, obviously you disagree, revisit this thread in 2 years we will have a view whose correct
Why does Joe Cole need to have been a 'world superstar' and how is that defined? He was a great little player who had a very successful career that came out of their academy. If Declan Rice or MGW have anything like the career he had, I'd say they had been very successful and it was something for the club and academies to be proud of.
To be honest, like all young players I think Declan Rice is inconsistent and could go either way. I wouldn't claim that he is currently or is going to be rubbish or underwhelming, but also wouldn't claim to be correct if he became a superstar. I'm happy to say he has potential to be a good player as I think that is all anyone can say; but I'm not bothered about being correct about it and will have forgotten about this conversation by next week, let alone in two years.
Called up for England squad.
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