Discussion in 'Molineux Mix' started by The Fat Bloke, Dec 5, 2018.
I know, didn't realise he was on the pitch til the announcement.
Bit like the one we had against Huddersfield and Cardiff, complacency is a killer!
I've said for several games now that Costa very often waddles around the pitch as if he's just completed a marathon. Totally lethargic and disinterested, which is completely infuriating. Doherty is sometimes guilty of it too, although nowhere near to the same extent or regularity.
I don't for a minute think any of them are lethargic. Costa works his butt off, its a frequent accusation I see about our players when things are just not going right.
Only time I would say any of them looked disheartened was the last 20 mins v Huddersfield.
Sorry but it s just my view, just as others are entitled to their's of course.
Re. the Morata "penalty", there is an old saying in cricket when a batsman protests that he was given out unfairly, "look in the newspaper tomorrow". I have consulted several newspapers and none of them record Chelsea having been awarded a penalty.
My reasoning is why, Wolves can compete against the big guns, but than they do not do the same when we are facing the teams around or behind us. It is unbelievable how we lost so many points against Brighton, Cardiff, Huddersfield, Watford and Leicester, and in some of these matches we played like a Sunday Park team.
I would say it's been a combination of stuff.
Bad luck (Leicester and Brighton....hit woodwork and gave away unlucky goals)
Poor play (Watford, Huddersfield and Cardiff)
Poor system choice/integrity (Watford and Huddersfield)
Smart opposition counter tactics and play (Watford and Huddersfield)
Against the bigger teams we know what they will be trying to do and we counter that with a defensive plan to work off. Up against the other teams at our level we have to make the play but know not what they will be coming at us with.
I think the main let down has been at home and that because we have tried to impose a system that isn't strong enough. Our weak attack along with the midfield not being robust enough to withstand opposition overload is what failed us.
We learn and move on. #fingerscrossed
These cockneys are very passionate about their football.
Not sure if it's been mentioned but to top off a great win.... watch the Sky "half hour" highlights of the game.
Don Goodman on co comms and half a "YYEEESSSSS" when we equalise.... suddenly realising he was working !!
Yes it was. But you could seriously that being given.
Go on Don lad! The villa and Albion fans I know call him Dingle Don, he’s one of us!
OMG! So hard to remain PC.
Im a bit late with this but here’s what I thought.
The first 15 minutes or so I felt we were very poor. Too much standing off, no confidence to pass the ball around and when I saw the long throws I couldn’t believe it. I was worried Nuno was trying to turn us into Cardiff, especially after the long ball antics we employed against Cardiff.
The next 30-40 mins or so (until we scored), I felt we grew into the game but didn’t really threaten. We were ok.
Once we scored I felt we looked much much better. We looked dangerous, we pressed, we passed the ball, and we looked comfortable. We are a team that needs to play to its strength’s; quick attacking play but most importantly, keeping the ball on the floor. What we did against Cardiff and early on against Chelsea was stupid. We can’t play long ball as we don’t have the players for it. I hope the players gain confidence from Wednesday and we start playing again how we know we can, and how we were playing pre Huddersfield.
Overall I was really pleased with the way things turned out and especially the way we got stronger as the game went on. I think everyone played well and I hope Nuno plays the same team on Sunday. I believe Wednesday’s formation is the way to go until we strengthen the team in January.
Patricio 7- No chance with the goal, good save from Willian’s free kick.
Doherty 8-Did well against Hazard (apart from 1 occasion) and it was a great cross for the goal.
Vinagre 8-I felt he, Gibbs White and Bennett’s tackle got the team going. He was defensively solid against Willian but the thing that impressed me the most was his agressive interceptions. He started the pressing and he’s a great outlet.
Bennett 8-Best of the 3 defenders and I’m not his biggest fan. Very solid and that tackle on Willian was just majestic. He took everything and saved a certain goal. Good lad.
Coady 6-He wasn’t great in my opinion. He was turned a few times by Morata, was too deep, not close enough to intercept things or help the other defenders after flicks by-passed them, and his passing was poor. He did get better though and he’s allowed a poor game every so often.
Boly 7-At times he was brilliant and dominant, but he also made a few mistakes. First half he got really out of position early on allowing Kante?? to get behind him. Great tackle on morata, very dominant in the air but also gave the ball away a few times including being caught on it at one point.
Saiss 7- He got much better as the game went on. 6 first half, 8 second half. He offers solidity and I would play him from now on until we buy better.
Moutinho 7- As above but I wouldn’t buy better, I would use him and Neves alternatively, but NOT together.
Gibbs White 9- Excellent. Superb assist and it turned the whole game. He’s a great outlet too. Skilful, good awareness and he rarely loses the ball. Until he matures physically, playing in that position is definitely where he should be playing. His run in the first half was awesome. MOTM.
Jota 8- Played well, especially after he scored. He was strong, aggressive and a real nuisance to Chelsea. I felt he looked much better at Cardiff and I hope the break was just what he needed.
Jimenez 7- He played well and his goal was an excellent strike. Didn’t hold the ball up as well as he usually does but he certainly made up for that with his work rate.
Costa 7- Came on and provided an outlet which is exactly what we needed at the time. Contrived to get Alonso booked with great skill, and although he messed up one opportunity (4 on 3??), it wasn’t an easy pass. I thought he looked good.
Dendoncker 7-Not on for long but he was impressive. He not only outpaced, but he bullied Loftus Cheek. That sort of strength is exactly what we have been missing. He looked very composed and it’s only a matter of time until he becomes a regular either in defence or in midfield.
Cav 7-Like Costa he came on and provided an outlet. Linked up well with Vinagre in the 5-10 minutes that he played.
My Chelsea supporting other half peed herself laughing at this video...
Edited to add: Not literally obviously. Her comment was 'Damn, he went off on one'.
Pleased to read that Dendoncker looked strong and mobile in midfield - that is what we are crying out for.
Would have been potentially ideal for games v Cardiff and Huddersfield.
Never mind, hopefully he is looking good for future games now.
If you understood football you wouldn't need to ask that question...
Waiting for him to connect his hand with that ceiling fan
It's the proverbial Funny Old Game. We've played better several times and not won. We had fewer chances than any other match, yet scored them both and deservedly won against a team containing some of the best in the world.
I think there was a bit of "luck rebalancing" going on here. We are neither top 6 nor bottom 6, the defeats never did make us serious relegation candidates and this win doesn't make us challengers for Europe. It was an improved performance for sure, but still it's visibly the same team we've seen all season, same strengths, same weaknesses.
The first half has divided people, some thought we were good, some terrible. At the time, I thought we were too negative, gave Chelsea too much space and were heading for inevitable defeat. Glad to be proved wrong! Also, after watching some extended highlights, I've changed my mind a bit and we weren't that bad. It just feels uncomfortable when you're sitting back against a top team, waiting to hope and hit them on the break. In hindsight, we did have 2 or 3 good breaks that were a warning of what we could do.
Overall, I still prefer us to not sit too deep and I think that was key against Chelsea. When we have an out ball, by not compressing ourselves, it eases pressure and this is how we turned it round and kept it that way. Gibbs-White was my MoM, driving forward was just what we needed, as opposed to the stopping and going backwards that had become a bit of a bad habit recently. And Jota had his best match this season. Got his goal and generally gave Chelsea something to worry about - that's what we need.
Saiss was good, too. Perhaps there is some sense in the idea that we should play either Neves or Moutinho alongside Saiss, or perhaps Dendonker - who also impressed. Didn't realise he is so pacy! Especially in the second half it looked like Moutinho got further forward than usual and this helped us keep possession higher up, which is far less nerve wracking to watch.
And what a cross from Doherty for the 2nd goal! We have 4 players in the penalty area at that point, which must be a record this season. And it paid off. We've been in those positions behind the defence a few times, but with nobody arriving, I remember a couple at season start where Jota wasn't even in the penalty area, which led me to think our attackers were being stifled by over-caution. But not this time. Right place, right time and an unforgettable goal in a match that will live long in memory.
The rollercoaster isn't over though. This is Wolves and we will lose a few in a row again at some point as sure as we will win some. I'm very happy for us to keep bobbing along in safety, the players a learning and developing all the time, we're already doing better than the vast majority of newly promoted teams.
Far too balanced for the mix!
These teams adjust their tactics to stifle us and stop us playing. Whereas so far the “bigger” teams have tried to just outplay us, understandably so, but the longer we’ve stuck in these games the more effective our tactics become.
[QUOTE="HKWolf, post: 5598860, member: 5889]......, and when I saw the long throws I couldn’t believe it. I was worried Nuno was trying to turn us into Cardiff....
The thing about the long throw ins is that Stoke, historically (Delap), and Cardiff now, is that they have very few other outlets and little creativity. We do have creativity from several players and can mix up our approach.
It's a useful weapon to have. I have bemoaned our throw ins for years, we always seem to throw to crowded out payers or spaces, maybe is is now part of "Plan B"?!
What a great write up, I concur with it all very well written
Little different to how a lot of Wolves fans reacted after losing to Huddersfield, basically.
To be fair, we proper hammered Brighton and Leicester, just never got a break.
The monkey gland supply has been restored, after running out a few weeks ago! How else do you explain Bennett's amazing sprint and tackle in the first half? Teenage Gibbs-White out battling world class Kante? Jimanez finally smashing the ball into the net?
You are too intelligent for the Mix, you need the Oxford or Cambridge forums.
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